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	<title>Comments on: A Quick Look at the Upcoming PC-BSD 9</title>
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		<title>By: Petr Topiarz</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Petr Topiarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 11:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New environments are definitely welcome, but....! 

1. The choice of KDE wasn&#039;t bad, kde3 was fast and comfortable and ran much faster then KDE3 on linux. The problem came with kde4, which in PC-BSD for some unknown reason is much slower then KDE4 on linux. Generally KDE4 is slow and system consuming. 

2. With the new environments, a lot of things will either not be as polished as it was, or if they put power into polishing, things will not work well. Simply, unless they get more people (which they could with the new environments) the overall level of the system will go down. You cannot do twice the work with the same number of people and maintain the same quality.

So, let&#039;s see how they fare...

Peter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New environments are definitely welcome, but&#8230;.! </p>
<p>1. The choice of KDE wasn&#8217;t bad, kde3 was fast and comfortable and ran much faster then KDE3 on linux. The problem came with kde4, which in PC-BSD for some unknown reason is much slower then KDE4 on linux. Generally KDE4 is slow and system consuming. </p>
<p>2. With the new environments, a lot of things will either not be as polished as it was, or if they put power into polishing, things will not work well. Simply, unless they get more people (which they could with the new environments) the overall level of the system will go down. You cannot do twice the work with the same number of people and maintain the same quality.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s see how they fare&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: dru</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I added a PBI request for i3 at http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14423. I don&#039;t think that i3status has been ported to FreeBSD--if you wish, you can also request that it be ported on the Ports Requests forum (http://forums.pcbsd.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73).

Have you retried booting with a newer snapshot to see if the issue has been fixed yet? If it still doesn&#039;t, please post more information about your hardware to help us figure out what is preventing the boot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added a PBI request for i3 at <a href="http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14423" rel="nofollow">http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14423</a>. I don&#8217;t think that i3status has been ported to FreeBSD&#8211;if you wish, you can also request that it be ported on the Ports Requests forum (<a href="http://forums.pcbsd.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73" rel="nofollow">http://forums.pcbsd.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73</a>).</p>
<p>Have you retried booting with a newer snapshot to see if the issue has been fixed yet? If it still doesn&#8217;t, please post more information about your hardware to help us figure out what is preventing the boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Zenny</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Zenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish this release supports i3-wm and i3status (http://i3.zekjur.net/) as I find it most comfortable tiling windows manager to tweak. 

Also, I could not figure out how to get rid of  the sound lag in PCBSD-8.2 (also reported at http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=130854). In my case the sound lags even in flash-supported browsers as well as while running mplayer.

I tried 9 alpha DVD iso, but it could not boot at all (Reported here : http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14260)

Thanks Kris and team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish this release supports i3-wm and i3status (<a href="http://i3.zekjur.net/" rel="nofollow">http://i3.zekjur.net/</a>) as I find it most comfortable tiling windows manager to tweak. </p>
<p>Also, I could not figure out how to get rid of  the sound lag in PCBSD-8.2 (also reported at <a href="http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=130854" rel="nofollow">http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=130854</a>). In my case the sound lags even in flash-supported browsers as well as while running mplayer.</p>
<p>I tried 9 alpha DVD iso, but it could not boot at all (Reported here : <a href="http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14260" rel="nofollow">http://forums.pcbsd.org/showthread.php?t=14260</a>)</p>
<p>Thanks Kris and team.</p>
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		<title>By: dru</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the entire PBI system has been revamped as well for 9.0. Check out Kris&#039; paper on the new format: http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/formal-paper-on-new-pbi-9-format/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the entire PBI system has been revamped as well for 9.0. Check out Kris&#8217; paper on the new format: <a href="http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/formal-paper-on-new-pbi-9-format/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/formal-paper-on-new-pbi-9-format/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erik Stanway</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Stanway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good news for PC-BSD. IMHO, the were becoming eclipsed by newer FreeBSD flavors like MidnightBSD and GhostBST simply because KDE is such a bloated beast. Many FreeBSD&#039;er are very supportive of the lesser known *BSDs (especially in this Age of Linux) and prefer GNUStep or GNOME, respectively referring the the previous distributions, and like the quick action of a light window manager with immediate response time from the terminal, all the while having access to the ports collection. 

This will be the second burden PC-BSD needs to overcome as the .pbi&#039;s are troublesome as hell. Either they don&#039;t work on initial installation and you need to delete whatever downloaded when you installed it the first time (or whatever part of it did install) OR you install a .pbi after installation, then wrestle with the same problem (a half-installable app is a bitch to delete and start over due to the dependencies). Ports is much easier, but then there&#039;s the time factor. 

I hope the team at PC-BSD has addressed these issues and I look forward to the next release. Best to Kris and the Team. /Erik]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good news for PC-BSD. IMHO, the were becoming eclipsed by newer FreeBSD flavors like MidnightBSD and GhostBST simply because KDE is such a bloated beast. Many FreeBSD&#8217;er are very supportive of the lesser known *BSDs (especially in this Age of Linux) and prefer GNUStep or GNOME, respectively referring the the previous distributions, and like the quick action of a light window manager with immediate response time from the terminal, all the while having access to the ports collection. </p>
<p>This will be the second burden PC-BSD needs to overcome as the .pbi&#8217;s are troublesome as hell. Either they don&#8217;t work on initial installation and you need to delete whatever downloaded when you installed it the first time (or whatever part of it did install) OR you install a .pbi after installation, then wrestle with the same problem (a half-installable app is a bitch to delete and start over due to the dependencies). Ports is much easier, but then there&#8217;s the time factor. </p>
<p>I hope the team at PC-BSD has addressed these issues and I look forward to the next release. Best to Kris and the Team. /Erik</p>
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		<title>By: shwany</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>shwany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent News,

I have always wanted to use PC-BSD, but didnt get on with KDE.

I can&#039;t wait!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent News,</p>
<p>I have always wanted to use PC-BSD, but didnt get on with KDE.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Heard</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Heard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am excited to hear that the 9 series will make it easy to use different desktop environments.  I have long been curious about FreeBSD, and even done an install from scratch, but prefer the simpler approach taken in PC-BSD of having a ready-made GUI.  Unfortunately, I do not like KDE, which has kept me from seriously considering PC-BSD until now.  I look forward to the release.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited to hear that the 9 series will make it easy to use different desktop environments.  I have long been curious about FreeBSD, and even done an install from scratch, but prefer the simpler approach taken in PC-BSD of having a ready-made GUI.  Unfortunately, I do not like KDE, which has kept me from seriously considering PC-BSD until now.  I look forward to the release.</p>
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		<title>By: PBI 9.0 re-implemented for Free/PC-BSD &#124; FreeBSD News</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2011/03/a-quick-look-at-the-upcoming-pc-bsd-9/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>PBI 9.0 re-implemented for Free/PC-BSD &#124; FreeBSD News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] PBI 9 will be part of the upcoming PC-BSD 9.0 and Kris has written up an article in the lasted BSD Magazine on his progress and what new features we can expect: A quick look at the upcoming PC-BSD 9. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PBI 9 will be part of the upcoming PC-BSD 9.0 and Kris has written up an article in the lasted BSD Magazine on his progress and what new features we can expect: A quick look at the upcoming PC-BSD 9. [...]</p>
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