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	<title>Comments on: PC-BSD at NELF</title>
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	<description>Discover the Desktop</description>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2163</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PC-BSD = Stability , first time to use it and i love it .
Keep it Developed .
good luck PC-BSD team,move toward perfection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC-BSD = Stability , first time to use it and i love it .<br />
Keep it Developed .<br />
good luck PC-BSD team,move toward perfection.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 23:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its good to see BSD reps at events getting the word out!  Much thanks to all who contribute to producing a great OS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its good to see BSD reps at events getting the word out!  Much thanks to all who contribute to producing a great OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Sho-Nuff</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator>Sho-Nuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am backing Dru and the rest of the PC-BSD Team ...
Keep Up The Good Work 

Thank You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am backing Dru and the rest of the PC-BSD Team &#8230;<br />
Keep Up The Good Work </p>
<p>Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: dru</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2085</link>
		<dc:creator>dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s definitely more than developers working on the project. We get a lot of feedback from testers (many who are pleased at how responsive the devs are to new features and bug fixes), people who suggest or create PBIs for AppCafe, people who assist with the documentation wiki, etc.

If you read the blog regularly you&#039;ll see that DVDs are given out at ~20 open source conferences per year and that anyone can request DVDs to give out at their local user group, school, etc. iX pays for the DVDs and the shipping.

I&#039;ve been paid to write docs for iX for about 18 months now. Years before that I wrote about PC-BSD (including a book) and paid my own way to speak about it at conferences and to assist at BSD booths. I still do ~12 conferences per year.

So there is lots of room for anyone to contribute as they can. We shouldn&#039;t belittle the contributions of others nor ignore constructive feedback on how to improve things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s definitely more than developers working on the project. We get a lot of feedback from testers (many who are pleased at how responsive the devs are to new features and bug fixes), people who suggest or create PBIs for AppCafe, people who assist with the documentation wiki, etc.</p>
<p>If you read the blog regularly you&#8217;ll see that DVDs are given out at ~20 open source conferences per year and that anyone can request DVDs to give out at their local user group, school, etc. iX pays for the DVDs and the shipping.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been paid to write docs for iX for about 18 months now. Years before that I wrote about PC-BSD (including a book) and paid my own way to speak about it at conferences and to assist at BSD booths. I still do ~12 conferences per year.</p>
<p>So there is lots of room for anyone to contribute as they can. We shouldn&#8217;t belittle the contributions of others nor ignore constructive feedback on how to improve things.</p>
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		<title>By: AMS</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2084</link>
		<dc:creator>AMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m backing up Silvio and Robert.

@frederic
I&#039;m not trolling. Neither are Rob (can I call you Rob?) and Silvio.
We&#039;re are pretty much stating our *opinions*

present participle of troll (Verb)
Verb:	
Fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat: &quot;we trolled for mackerel&quot;.
Search for something.

Merriam-Webster	The Free Dictionary

Just because you don&#039;t agree with us doesn&#039;t make us trolls. I would love PCBSD to work flawlessly. I&#039;ve wasted many a blank media disc.

I wish comments weren&#039;t an option.

@Dru
You guys seeking sponsorship?  Is this a schmooze event? Who funds the swag? Do people get paid?  This why I&#039;ve never donated anything but my time. What have you done?
The first commenter, in my opinion, has a good point.
I understand that everyone working on the project is a developer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m backing up Silvio and Robert.</p>
<p>@frederic<br />
I&#8217;m not trolling. Neither are Rob (can I call you Rob?) and Silvio.<br />
We&#8217;re are pretty much stating our *opinions*</p>
<p>present participle of troll (Verb)<br />
Verb:<br />
Fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat: &#8220;we trolled for mackerel&#8221;.<br />
Search for something.</p>
<p>Merriam-Webster	The Free Dictionary</p>
<p>Just because you don&#8217;t agree with us doesn&#8217;t make us trolls. I would love PCBSD to work flawlessly. I&#8217;ve wasted many a blank media disc.</p>
<p>I wish comments weren&#8217;t an option.</p>
<p>@Dru<br />
You guys seeking sponsorship?  Is this a schmooze event? Who funds the swag? Do people get paid?  This why I&#8217;ve never donated anything but my time. What have you done?<br />
The first commenter, in my opinion, has a good point.<br />
I understand that everyone working on the project is a developer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Frederic

While I don&#039;t agree with everything AMS is saying and I think we may define &quot;Community driven&quot; a little differently, I don&#039;t think he&#039;s intentionally being a troll. I&#039;m assuming I could probably find his concerns posted in the forums somewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frederic</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t agree with everything AMS is saying and I think we may define &#8220;Community driven&#8221; a little differently, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s intentionally being a troll. I&#8217;m assuming I could probably find his concerns posted in the forums somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Frederic</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2082</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@AMS 

Stop being a troll. If you really had a point to make, you be posting somewhere other than an announcement of an event.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AMS </p>
<p>Stop being a troll. If you really had a point to make, you be posting somewhere other than an announcement of an event.</p>
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		<title>By: AMS</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator>AMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ray
Get off your horse.

Don&#039;t act all high and mighty. Your name is Ray, that&#039;s all.

I don&#039;t think you understand, WITHOUT USERS, PCBSD -will- disappear.

This a community driven project. Let the community do what they do best.

Innovation will never happen if gutless, buttkissers are afraid to point out troubles/flaws/needs for future releases.

Oh... And BTW, if PCBSD isn&#039;t working for someone, I&#039;m pretty sure the devs DO want to hear about it.  I&#039;m pretty sure they want to try and fix it.  I&#039;m pretty sure that they want a large user base.  And last, but not least, I&#039;m pretty sure you don&#039;t know anything about BSD, except that it&#039;s free (to you) but the price of passion for developers. Some people do get paid to develop software (GEM/KMS/DRI) and need wide hardware support, &#039;user friendly&#039; installation and use. Without this, there is no need to develop.

That&#039;s great it works flawlessly for you and your emachine. Some of us like to build systems tailored to our requirements, not an OS.

Like previously stated:
If I was still in school and didn’t have bills to pay… I would personally come to every BSD users desktop and help them *learn* to figure it out.

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;m asking you PCBSD, but you don&#039;t want people to have to *figure it out* do you?
Is the goal not stated above?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ray<br />
Get off your horse.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t act all high and mighty. Your name is Ray, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you understand, WITHOUT USERS, PCBSD -will- disappear.</p>
<p>This a community driven project. Let the community do what they do best.</p>
<p>Innovation will never happen if gutless, buttkissers are afraid to point out troubles/flaws/needs for future releases.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; And BTW, if PCBSD isn&#8217;t working for someone, I&#8217;m pretty sure the devs DO want to hear about it.  I&#8217;m pretty sure they want to try and fix it.  I&#8217;m pretty sure that they want a large user base.  And last, but not least, I&#8217;m pretty sure you don&#8217;t know anything about BSD, except that it&#8217;s free (to you) but the price of passion for developers. Some people do get paid to develop software (GEM/KMS/DRI) and need wide hardware support, &#8216;user friendly&#8217; installation and use. Without this, there is no need to develop.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great it works flawlessly for you and your emachine. Some of us like to build systems tailored to our requirements, not an OS.</p>
<p>Like previously stated:<br />
If I was still in school and didn’t have bills to pay… I would personally come to every BSD users desktop and help them *learn* to figure it out.</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;m asking you PCBSD, but you don&#8217;t want people to have to *figure it out* do you?<br />
Is the goal not stated above?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the beauty of it. If it doesn&#039;t work for you and your not willing or able to help resolve the issue, move on. But whining about something that doesn&#039;t have a warranty isn&#039;t making much sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of it. If it doesn&#8217;t work for you and your not willing or able to help resolve the issue, move on. But whining about something that doesn&#8217;t have a warranty isn&#8217;t making much sense.</p>
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		<title>By: AMS</title>
		<link>http://blog.pcbsd.org/2012/03/pc-bsd-at-nelf/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>AMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve used BSD since 4.4.
This isn&#039;t FreeBSD. This is PCBSD.

&quot;What is PC-BSD?
PC-BSD is a user friendly desktop Operating System based on FreeBSD.&quot;

Source:
http://pcbsd.org/

&#039;nuff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used BSD since 4.4.<br />
This isn&#8217;t FreeBSD. This is PCBSD.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is PC-BSD?<br />
PC-BSD is a user friendly desktop Operating System based on FreeBSD.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://pcbsd.org/" rel="nofollow">http://pcbsd.org/</a></p>
<p>&#8217;nuff</p>
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